Comments on: Justice Denied for Luis Ramirez

By: LC

LC — Tue, 06 Jul 2010 07:09:34 +0000

Both sides make good points, and it is true that one must be well informed before rendering a judgment or opinion, if we want such expressions to be sound ones. None of us truly know, or are privy to the details, as they relate to each person’s personality, background, etc. If Ramirez’s nature was an aggressive one and he in effect stuck first, then of course the opposing party would have the right to defend himself. Yet, there are boundaries, limits, moral and legal parameters that take an action from being justified to being extreme, from being in ones natural right, to being clear abuse. The image of Ramirez’s face tells another story. No matter what he did, did he really deserve to be killed in such a manner? Did the people who beat him have to go to that extreme? I am not saying that anyone was right or wrong, but did Ramirez’s behavior warrant the outcome? This is a lessor in self reflection for us as well because it lets us know where we stand in our own levels of moral development.

By: CARMAR

CARMAR — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:35:37 +0000

For those of you who believe its unethical, immoral and unjust for these 2 monsters to get away with murder with a 6 month sentence please go to the link below and sign this petition to have the United States Department of Justice intervene and file federal hate crime charges on these men.

http://www.maldef.org/luis_ramirez_petition/

By: Gabriel San Blogman

Gabriel San Blogman — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:43:33 +0000

And the court of law has never been racist before, right? And over the course of legal history, neither have all-white juries, right? This is just laughable. Sorry, your piss poor blog link only adds to the distortions…

You say you have no hatred, but curiously omit the racist remarks of these so-called innocent teenagers who beat a man to death. Can’t account for them? Or do you agree with them?

Secondly, your first post made of point of the victim’s legal status – exactly what bearing does that have? If someone doesn’t have papers, does that give the right to those who do to commit a hate crime with impunity? Your answer is yes, even if you don’t come out and say it.

Hater…

By: PS

PS — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:30:00 +0000

Gabriel, I have no need to “justify” a court of law has already done that. Where is this “hate crime” you speak of? I’m sure that that you feel there is no justification whatsoever for a European American to defend themselves against a person of color, let alone come out on top in such a confrontation. Does this outcome fly in the face of all the movies and pop culture you’ve been watching? White guy = BAD,..Brown guy = GOOD nonsense. The deceased made a mistake and attacked the wrong young man and paid for it with his life, end of story. In all of your blog statements, have you ever documented ANY hate crime directed toward a European American? I’ll answer for you,..no you have not. You are the racist. You are an intolerant fascist, practicing your own brand of discrimination. I have no “hatred” for people, just their lies. Be careful there son, sometimes we become what we do. Don’t be a liar.

By: Gabriel San Blogman

Gabriel San Blogman — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:46:41 +0000

You’re still disgustingly trying to justify a hate crime death? And even worse, distorting the truth to that end?

Again and again, I long for the good ol’ racists who didn’t give a shit and were just straight up with their hatred…

By: PS

PS — Sun, 31 May 2009 00:27:39 +0000

We both know that had the “victim” been white and the roles reversed then you would all be snoring. You should look at the REAL facts of the case. The “victim” precipitated his own killing by throwing the first punch end of story. The “victim” was an adult male striking a minor. The “victim” was then struck in self defense by the minor and then the “victim” fell and struck his head. The impact of the “victim’s” heads striking the ground caused his death. The “victim” had help in the fight from a friend, the so-called “victim” was not alone nor even outnumbered during the confrontation.

If you’re really interested in the truth, I will provide a link below. If you’re just upset that some Mexican has gone on to meet his maker by the hand of a European American defending himself, well then I can offer nothing that will enlighten or soothe you.

Here’s the link:

http://auftfos.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/3/

By: Gabriel San Blogman

Gabriel San Blogman — Sat, 30 May 2009 18:50:32 +0000

None of what you have pathetically and disgustingly pilfered out serves as a justification for the hate crime murder of Luis Ramirez nor the criminal injustice done to his memory in clearing two of the accused of the most serious charges in the case.

The fact that you think otherwise is ridiculous.

Ps, “PS” I’m not a Liberal, and nothing spoken here is lies. Now, don’t you have a Klan meeting you have to get going to?

By: PS

PS — Fri, 29 May 2009 19:12:20 +0000

I think if you have an interest in the truth then you should research the full and true facts of this incident. Consider that the 25 year old “victim” was fooling around with a 15 year old girl!! Consider that the “victim” actually threw the first punch. Consider that a 25 year old man initially assaulted a 17 year old male minor. Consider that the “victim” was here illegally. Enough of the liberal lies and distortions of the truth. Wake up people.