Comments on: Subversive Historian – 01/23/09 http://donpalabraz.com/?p=934 Truth Tella' in a World of Puras MentiraZ Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:03:58 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Gabriel San Blogman http://donpalabraz.com/?p=934&cpage=1#comment-121 Gabriel San Blogman Sat, 21 Feb 2009 22:44:55 +0000 http://donpalabraz.com/?p=934#comment-121 Hi Steve - Thank you for sharing your personal experiences as it relates to this history and for expanding on what I wrote. "Subversive Historian," is a series of radio commentaries that I write, record and produce, and I have all but one minute to condense the complexities of particular episodes of history. Of course, the ultimate aim is to tip off interest for people to delve deeper so thanks again for helping in this regard. Peace, ~g Hi Steve -

Thank you for sharing your personal experiences as it relates to this history and for expanding on what I wrote. “Subversive Historian,” is a series of radio commentaries that I write, record and produce, and I have all but one minute to condense the complexities of particular episodes of history. Of course, the ultimate aim is to tip off interest for people to delve deeper so thanks again for helping in this regard.

Peace,
~g

]]> By: Steve Paul http://donpalabraz.com/?p=934&cpage=1#comment-120 Steve Paul Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:28:40 +0000 http://donpalabraz.com/?p=934#comment-120 http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history.do?action=tdihArticleCategory&id=4407 http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history.do?action=tdihArticleCategory&id=4407

]]> By: Steve Paul http://donpalabraz.com/?p=934&cpage=1#comment-119 Steve Paul Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:28:16 +0000 http://donpalabraz.com/?p=934#comment-119 Here is another link to a more 'mainstream' version...completely consistent with the link above. Here is another link to a more ‘mainstream’ version…completely consistent with the link above.

]]> By: Steve Paul http://donpalabraz.com/?p=934&cpage=1#comment-118 Steve Paul Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:25:49 +0000 http://donpalabraz.com/?p=934#comment-118 For more information and partipants statements on what occurred: http://www.dickshovel.com/parts2.html For more information and partipants statements on what occurred:
http://www.dickshovel.com/parts2.html

]]> By: Steve Paul http://donpalabraz.com/?p=934&cpage=1#comment-117 Steve Paul Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:42:02 +0000 http://donpalabraz.com/?p=934#comment-117 There is so much more to this story... I am Blackfeet and last month I travelled 800 miles from my home to be where this occured on January 23rd of this year. My nephews and I had originally planned to attend the annual tribal ceremony to honor our lost relatives but, because the rancher who leases the land (that was stolen from our tribe so many years ago) would not allow access for the Tribe, my nephews and I deliberately trespassed onto "his" land to honor our relatives. The ceremony was held upstream - a mile away. It was minus 10F and a very cold, bleak hike down into the riverbottom where the murders took place. We stood on the same bluffs where the soldiers took aim and killed so many of our old people, women and children. Many of the soldiers were reportedly drunk (according to several witnesses present: including Horace Clarke, son of the victim of the murder that prompted this whole tragedy) Their 33 year old 'commander' Eugene Baker, (who died in obscurity 15 years later of cirrohsis of the liver) was informed that he was preparing to strike the wrong camp just before the early morning attack by one of his Indian scouts, Joe Kipp...and ordered the him held: "Seargeant: If this man moves or cries out I want him shot". The morning we made our pilgrimage it was clear and not nearly as cold as when Baker's men released the 'survivors' to find their own way to safety...after having destroyed all their teepees, robes and food. Some of the people survived several days of subzero cold with no food and found their way to safety. Many more did not. That day..in our goretex pants and goose down jackets... my nephews and I honored them with sage, sweetgrass and prayer. The fact that this site is not a national monument is a Travesty. As one of my nephews so incisively noted: "Uncle...Just imagine if it was the white guys who died! There would be a National Memorial, a historic National Cemetary, a Visitor Center and Interpretive Walk with uniformed Tour Guides...even an RV park." (I think he must have visited the Little Bighorn Battlefield at some point...difference there was that Baker actually did his job. And that he lived. Hard to mythologize a still-living, raging alcoholic I guess). There have been efforts to have this place made into a national monument over the years. Time will tell. There is so much more to this story…
I am Blackfeet and last month I travelled 800 miles from my home to be where this occured on January 23rd of this year.
My nephews and I had originally planned to attend the annual tribal ceremony to honor our lost relatives but, because the rancher who leases the land (that was stolen from our tribe so many years ago) would not allow access for the Tribe, my nephews and I deliberately trespassed onto “his” land to honor our relatives. The ceremony was held upstream – a mile away.
It was minus 10F and a very cold, bleak hike down into the riverbottom where the murders took place. We stood on the same bluffs where the soldiers took aim and killed so many of our old people, women and children. Many of the soldiers were reportedly drunk (according to several witnesses present: including Horace Clarke, son of the victim of the murder that prompted this whole tragedy)
Their 33 year old ‘commander’ Eugene Baker, (who died in obscurity 15 years later of cirrohsis of the liver) was informed that he was preparing to strike the wrong camp just before the early morning attack by one of his Indian scouts, Joe Kipp…and ordered the him held: “Seargeant: If this man moves or cries out I want him shot”.
The morning we made our pilgrimage it was clear and not nearly as cold as when Baker’s men released the ’survivors’ to find their own way to safety…after having destroyed all their teepees, robes and food. Some of the people survived several days of subzero cold with no food and found their way to safety. Many more did not.
That day..in our goretex pants and goose down jackets… my nephews and I honored them with sage, sweetgrass and prayer.
The fact that this site is not a national monument is a Travesty.
As one of my nephews so incisively noted: “Uncle…Just imagine if it was the white guys who died! There would be a National Memorial, a historic National Cemetary, a Visitor Center and Interpretive Walk with uniformed Tour Guides…even an RV park.” (I think he must have visited the Little Bighorn Battlefield at some point…difference there was that Baker actually did his job. And that he lived. Hard to mythologize a still-living, raging alcoholic I guess).
There have been efforts to have this place made into a national monument over the years.
Time will tell.

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